Monday, July 12, 2010

Cartoon of the Day - Arizona Lawsuit

10 comments:

  1. I don't think that is true. I think many Americans will do what the illegals do. In an economy like we have today, I took a job for 7 dollars and hour...and was happy to take it. BTW, I am 53 and a visual merchandiser...no work...so I take what I can get. Other Americans are doing the same thing. The day I was hired at minimun wage, the man next to me was a electrical engineer taking a job unloading trucks for minimum as well. I don't think the cartoon is accurate or true.

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  2. Just need to get another 11 million Americans to do the same thing you did instead of expecting the government to continue extending unemployment benefits. Unfortunately it seems like there are not enough Americans that are willing to do the same thing you are doing, not enough to send back 11 million illegal aliens.

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  3. Bernardo, that is a extreme statement. You have no idea what Americans are willing to do...what do you think our country was founded on? The American spirit is still alive, yes, there is an element of sponging off the government, but isn't that an element of the illegal population as well? I am really tired of hearing this statement that illegals are doing what Americans won't. I don't think it is true at all. I look at the cartoon and the professions on there, I used to clean houses and made more than I am making now. Most of the housekeepers were illegal then as well, making the same $$$ I was. Landscaping...that is not a bad job. When in HS I took a test and that came out as a good job for me. I still love to garden and plant things. I know of a hotel that let go at least 50 illegals...and guess what the local citizens were waiting in line to apply for the jobs. I think there is a presumption going on in people like minded as you that is wrong...maybe if those jobs opened up, many of those on UNEMPLOYMENT would have to get off it or WANT to anyway. BTW, Unemployment is something we as citizens put into as well...

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  4. In a thriving economy this was very true and still is true to some degree. Yes more citizens are willing to pick up jobs in which they wouldn't have otherwise but there are still many jobs that will not be looked at until the situation gets even more dire. For example being out in the hot sun in the fields for very little pay, no benefits, and almost 7 days a week. I'm not sure how illegals sponge of the government. You need to be either a resident or a citizen to do that. An illegal is not entitled to govt help.

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  5. Analysis of the latest Census data indicates that Arizona’s illegal immigrant population is costing the state’s taxpayers about $1.3 billion per year for education, medical care and incarceration. Even if the estimated tax contributions of illegal immigrant workers are subtracted, net outlays still amount to about $1.3 billion per year. The annual fiscal burden borne by Arizonans amounts to more than $700 per household headed by a native-born resident.

    This analysis looks specifically at the costs of education, health care and incarceration because they represent the largest cost areas and because a 1994 study conducted by the Urban Institute, which also examined these same costs, provides a useful baseline for comparison ten years later. Other studies have been conducted in the interim, showing trends that support the conclusions of this report.

    As this report will note, other significant costs associated with illegal immigration exist and should be taken into account by federal and state officials. But even without accounting for all of the multitude of areas in which costs are being incurred by Arizona taxpayers, the programs analyzed in this study indicate that the burden is substantial and that the costs are rapidly increasing.

    The $1.3 billion in costs incurred by Arizona taxpayers is comprised of outlays in the following areas:

    * Education. Based on estimates of the illegal immigrant population in Arizona and documented costs of K-12 schooling, Arizonans spend approximately $820 million annually on education for illegal immigrant children and for their U.S.-born siblings.
    * Health Care. Uncom-pensated medical outlays for health care provided to the state’s illegal alien population is now estimated at about $400 million a year.
    * Incarceration. The cost of incarcerating illegal aliens in Arizona prisons and jails amounts to about $80 million a year (not including the monetary costs of the crimes that led to their incarceration).

    The unauthorized immigrant population pays some state and local taxes that go toward offsetting these costs, but they do not come near to matching the expenses. The total of such payments might generously be estimated at $257 million per year.

    The fiscal costs of illegal immigration do not end with these three major cost items. The total costs of illegal immigration to the state’s taxpayers would be considerably higher if other costs such as special English instruction, school nutrition programs, or welfare benefits for American workers displaced by illegal alien workers were added into the equation.

    http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServer?pagename=iic_immigrationissuecenters5e3f

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  6. Analysis of the latest Census data indicates that Arizona’s illegal immigrant population is costing the state’s taxpayers about $1.3 billion per year for education, medical care and incarceration. Even if the estimated tax contributions of illegal immigrant workers are subtracted, net outlays still amount to about $1.3 billion per year. The annual fiscal burden borne by Arizonans amounts to more than $700 per household headed by a native-born resident.

    This analysis looks specifically at the costs of education, health care and incarceration because they represent the largest cost areas and because a 1994 study conducted by the Urban Institute, which also examined these same costs, provides a useful baseline for comparison ten years later. Other studies have been conducted in the interim, showing trends that support the conclusions of this report.

    As this report will note, other significant costs associated with illegal immigration exist and should be taken into account by federal and state officials. But even without accounting for all of the multitude of areas in which costs are being incurred by Arizona taxpayers, the programs analyzed in this study indicate that the burden is substantial and that the costs are rapidly increasing.
    http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServer?pagename=iic_immigrationissuecenters5e3f

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  7. To the anonymous that replied to my post, I understand how you can think that it is an extreme statement. I am 44 getting by in this economy as well working for a lot less than I am used to because there is so much competition in my field. I have a very good idea of what people from the United States are willing to do, and what they are not willing to do. I have seen a lot of people go broke because they did not want to take a much lower paying job. From working with people for a long time and more recently with temp agencies, there are a lot of people that are in need, but have a lot of challenges and/or need an attitude adjustment. The precepts that the country was founded on are over 200 years old, and there are a lot of people that don't live by those ideals or principles any more. Employers want reliable people, and there are a good number of people out there that sadly are not reliable. Like I said, need to find 11 million legal people to take away the jobs of these illegal aliens that people keep complaining about so much. Any person that collects a PAYCHECK contributes to unemployment benefits, and it doesn't matter if they are legal or illegal. The only way to avoid that is to be paid in cash or under the table.

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  8. I beg to differ. If there is an illegal getting a pay check in this country, they have stolen someone's identity because we are required to have a social security number to be employed. Fraud is not a virtue - last I checked.

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  9. I'll just reply as anonymous as well. You must be living in la-la land. They don't have to steal anybody's identity (generally if someone's identity is stolen, they get ripped off financially, illegal aliens get a SSN to work). Other people sell them SSNs, it is an underground business, similar to fake ID's. There are at least 11 million illegals getting paychecks, with a valid SSN that they obtained from someone, not necessarily the SS administration. The fact that you don't want to recognize that this cartoon is outlining something that does happen in this country is something beyond comprehension. You are still entitled to think whatever you want, but look at what is actually happening.

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  10. You are kidding right?

    "Other people sell them SSNs, ... with a valid SSN that they obtained from someone, not necessarily the SS administration."

    FYI -- IF they (illegals) obtained a Social Security number from "anyone" OTHER than the Social Security Administration it is NOT valid. It is FRAUD - aka obtaining a fake legal document.

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