tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7708139263643046536.post6752654501572524501..comments2024-03-28T14:59:42.168-04:00Comments on Kresta In The Afternoon: BREAKING: USCCB Leads Coalition of Religious Leaders in Call for Religious LibertyUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7708139263643046536.post-32363131342878401652013-07-10T03:46:10.993-04:002013-07-10T03:46:10.993-04:00HELLO TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC.
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HELLO TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC.<br /> THE GREAT POWERFUL PROPHET THAT HELP<br /> ME SOLVED MY PROBLEM IN THE SUPREME COURT.<br /> <br /> <br />I want to say thank you Prophet Ahmed i have won the case.<br /> I'm Mr Tom from United State i was having problem in the court i was thinking what to do,really it was a terrible problem in the court when some one came from no were wanted to clam my company, he forged the company paper and said the company belong to his late dad, then i was so confused i didn't know what to do, on Sunday night i saw a Testimony on internet how this prophet help one woman before i contact the prophet and explain every thing to him, he told me not to worry since i have contact him my problem is solved, he list some items for me and he said i should buy them and send them to him to start the work for me immediately i told him i can't buy the items here in united state and he told me to send down the money so that he can buy the items there and i do, he start the work before 3 days he told me he has finished the work,he said i should not worry next time we are going to Court i will see what will happen that i will see the result of his work really on the court day i went to court the Judge declare to every body court that i'm the owner of the company that is how i won the case, i'm so happy now any body that see this comment should help me thank Prophet Ahmed,before i forget in case any body have any problems free free and contact him because his capable of handle any problems,he can also release person in jail, his email solutiontemple39@gmail.com or cell number +2347053375151.<br />prophet thank you so much i promise to share this Testimony to every body in the world wide. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7708139263643046536.post-24658906196845419852013-07-09T16:17:20.809-04:002013-07-09T16:17:20.809-04:00The Church can't even convince ordinary Cathol...The Church can't even convince ordinary Catholics that it's right on contraception. How is it going to prevail? Perhaps in the Courts, if private business owners can receive First Amendment religious protection (I'm against this for a number of reasons, chiefly because it's politically a loser). Anyway, I see the Catholic vote as increasingly going Democratic. The efforts of the USCB to "communicate" are laughable. They produce epistles that only they read or are meant for their Vatican masters. This is why the President is not at all afraid of their pronouncements, in fact he probably welcomes their self-aggrandizing morals speeches.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7708139263643046536.post-84924684348435830072013-07-09T14:23:35.561-04:002013-07-09T14:23:35.561-04:00No, what you describe is EXACTLY what's wrong ...No, what you describe is EXACTLY what's wrong with the conservative Catholic mentality. You want to make a fetish of losing and suffering. I can't stand this defeatist mentality. There's no immorality in having a winning strategy. To win in democracy you must have more votes than the other side. If you don't like politics, fine, stay out it. But if you want to RULE, you absolutely must win elections. Let's play to win now, in our time, not in the afterlife. (Consider that all great American leaders found it necessary at some point to compromise with evil--that's the nature of political life. Reflect on that.) Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7708139263643046536.post-59576867564257182572013-07-07T14:53:17.663-04:002013-07-07T14:53:17.663-04:00Wow, so slinging ad hominem attacks at Catholics w...Wow, so slinging ad hominem attacks at Catholics who follow Church teaching is prudent? Is winning? Is virtuous? Somehow that doesn't strike me as something Christ would have championed, i.e., winning at all costs. Calm down and behave like an adult Christian, not as a 13 year-old child would.<br /><br />Give to Caesar what is Caesar's and to God what is God's. It's not worth it to win elections if we lose our own souls or help others to lose their own in the process. The Church, and we who are a part of it, are all called to speak the truth, in love, and at all times. Christ never promised us an easy path, and we should expect torment, strife, persecution, etc. in this life, especially if we are living in the Truth and letting ourselves be instruments of the Truth here on this mortal coil. Belief in the Truth can never be a "fetish" by definition, so let's lose the rhetoric, shall we? It certainly won't win any hearts from among orthodox Catholics, nor among those who dissent from Church teaching, for that matter.Brother Kevin Gregorek, MICnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7708139263643046536.post-87200764618565006922013-07-06T22:52:07.536-04:002013-07-06T22:52:07.536-04:00No, fool, I'm talking about acting prudently i...No, fool, I'm talking about acting prudently in order to obtain the best possible outcome in a doubtful circumstance. It's called PRUDENCE and its practice is a VIRTUE. I want to WIN, but all you want to make fetish of losing. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7708139263643046536.post-59167280514609859082013-07-06T17:59:44.473-04:002013-07-06T17:59:44.473-04:00I never quite understand arguments like the one yo...I never quite understand arguments like the one you seem to be making, Anonymous. Are you suggesting the Church change its teaching of the truth to adjust to the fickle times of a sinful world? Then it would cease to be the Church, would it not? Should Catholics ourselves be silent in the face of the lies of the Enemy, so dazzlingly bright and shiny in this entire debate, at least when viewed through secular/Enlightenment lenses? <br /><br />As the old saying goes, "the truth is the truth even if nobody believes it; a lie is a lie even if everybody believes it." Are you saying you would prefer to side with the lies, or that the Church should do so? It simply won't happen, ever. The Holy Spirit is with the Church until the end of the ages, and He will not allow the Church to teach falsehoods as truth. Brother Kevin Gregorek, MICnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7708139263643046536.post-80277690184510676512013-07-05T11:45:04.158-04:002013-07-05T11:45:04.158-04:00You may be right about the constitutionality of th...You may be right about the constitutionality of the HHS mandate, I simply don't know enough to even guess, but I don't see this playing out well in our politics. It's a loser for conservatives. Democrats will scream "war on women" and this notion that conservatives are against women and gays will gain even greater strength than it has. I see no way a Republican president can be elected in 2016 if the "Christian right," including the Catholic right, is not silenced during the election year. It's alienating the majority of voters.<br /><br />I would add, to make the political situation even worse for Republicans, that American Catholics are deeply separated from the Bishops/Vatican on the whole range of issues dealing with sexuality, as poll after poll has demonstrated. A majority of Catholics supported Obama in the last election. This will continue as Hispanics continue to join the Democratic Party. Conservatism in this country in in a serious crisis. The HHS mandate opposition, even if it prevails, will not help the "macro" situation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7708139263643046536.post-85352093504914886792013-07-05T11:06:00.563-04:002013-07-05T11:06:00.563-04:00Not sure what your point is in pointing out the di...Not sure what your point is in pointing out the differences between Catholic teaching and the views of the Church regarding the human person vs. Enlightenment philosophers' views of the same human person. Yes, the United States was founded on a combination of Enlightenment and natural law principles (the latter derived from Christian teachings, Scripture, tradition, etc.), and indeed the Founding Fathers themselves naturally sided more with one or the other, but how does that bear on what Catholics in the US are called to do vis-a-vis Obamacare, the HHS mandate, etc.? <br /><br />We are Catholics first and foremost, before we are Americans, Texans, New Yorkers, French, etc. Just because conservative Catholics in France believe that it's the government's job to provide universal health care has no bearing on what the Church teaches about such matters, nor is it even fully in line with Catholic teaching (e.g., subsidiarity), for that matter. The French, like Americans or any other nationals of a given country, are a product of our national histories, traditions and customs, but again, not all of those are in line with Catholic teaching. To the degree that we separate ourselves from Mother Church and Her guidance on matters affecting morals and faith, we need to tread very carefully. <br /><br />The HHS mandate problem is Exhibit 'A' in the discussion about whether Obamacare is morally licit in all of its myriad details. No U.S. administration has authority under the Constitution to unilaterally do away with any of the Amendments in the Bill of Rights or in the entire Constitution. To the degree that the HHS mandate is in direct conflict with the Freedom of Religion clause of the First Amendment, not to mention being in direct violation of conscience rights and the moral law in general, we are conscience-bound and duty-bound to oppose it civilly and morally. Hence, the actions we see being taken by Catholics, other Christians, and even other religions in this country to stand against the HHS mandate. Brother Kevin Gregorek, MICnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7708139263643046536.post-70045436394139916542013-07-05T10:25:33.351-04:002013-07-05T10:25:33.351-04:00In France even conservative Catholics support univ...In France even conservative Catholics support universal health care. They believe it's proper for the government to provide health care to all citizens. <br /><br />Liberalism sees human nature quite differently from the view of the Catholic Church. The Church's view is much closer to Aristotle than it is to Locke. One can try to "Christianize" Locke and the American founders, but there remains a large difference in their outlook on human nature, the family, and the origin or private property. See Locke for example on marriage and the family in the Second Treatise.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7708139263643046536.post-19776426971398059412013-07-04T17:17:14.795-04:002013-07-04T17:17:14.795-04:00This last question you raise, I believe, really ge...This last question you raise, I believe, really gets to the heart of the differences between classical liberalism and the modern-day progressivism that Obama, Hillary, and Nancy Pelosi represent. You point out yourself that (some/many?) women will be angry if the USSC overturns the HHS mandate because they believe that the government should pay for their contraception. Why were these women not angry about this before Obamacare and the original rule of the HHS mandate ever came into being? Did we see a huge group of angry women then demanding that the government pay for their contraceptives, or did they simply pay for them on their own? You can see, I am sure, that Obama's administration has used this issue as a wedge to divide women and to make many of them think that somehow something is being taken away from them (a la the "war on women" meme he used to win re-election narrowly) which in reality they never had to begin with, and they weren't complaining about it until it was brought in by a manipulative administration to manipulate women emotionally. Once again, I stress that it is up to women (and men, and all voters everywhere) to use our God-given brains to realize that we must not allow ourselves to be manipulated and used so easily by an administration that seeks only its own power and its growth. If you go out and speak to every woman you know about the reality and the truth of this situation, and if everyone else does that, people will not be so gullible and fall for such manipulative language. We have the responsibility as citizens (and we as Catholics, as well) to understand the issues and not to let ourselves be led around like dogs on leashes, unable to think for ourselves and realize that we're being played like fiddles. On the original point above about the differences between classical liberalism and modern progressivism, I would argue that classical liberals would never even pose the question you have in the first place. "What do conservatives have to offer to women voters on personal health?" is soundly answered with a simple "keep your current insurance plan, search for another if you like, but it's not the place of the Federal government to get involved so deeply with health care at all. Make your own decisions, and the government will stay out of the insurance business, other than making sure there is a minimum safety net there to catch people who fall through the cracks in the traditional system." As a Catholic, I don't want Uncle Sam telling me that I must subsidize someone's abortion, sterilization, or IUD device, or else pay a penalty. That's not the prerogative of the Federal gov't under the Constitution, and the fact that some women are now demanding to have their $4/month Pill prescription available "for free" (it's never free--someone always pays; in this case, it's everyone involved in that particular health insurance plan paying for it by paying higher premiums) just points out the absurdly low information that so many voters possess. Brother Kevin Gregorek, MICnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7708139263643046536.post-43309388748382317922013-07-04T10:38:18.568-04:002013-07-04T10:38:18.568-04:00If you are right that the Supreme Court will find ...If you are right that the Supreme Court will find the HHS mandate violates the First Amendment's religion clauses, we will find that such a decision does not go over well with women voters. Another democratic president (likely Mrs. Clinton) will mean a more left leaning Supreme Court. What do conservatives have to offer women voters in this area of personal health? Just to be clear, I hate abortion and do not think it's the same issue as everyday contraception. As a political matter, denying contraceptive care through insurance is not wise if you want conservative presidents to have a chance at the presidency.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7708139263643046536.post-79444558754768574642013-07-03T22:55:57.760-04:002013-07-03T22:55:57.760-04:00Anonymous, leaving aside the identification of con...Anonymous, leaving aside the identification of contraception as a form of health care (whether most women--or men for that matter--agree or not is irrelevant to the objective reality that contraceptives are not health care), there is no case that the HHS can make whereby any employer should be forced to pay for women's contraception. Many health plans do not currently cover it, and it doesn't make an iota of difference in the lives of those women who are still fully capable of going out and buying the contraceptives themselves, be they the Pill, condoms, or female barrier methods. The cost of such contraception is negligible, and for Big Brother to force health insurers to pay for it so it's ostensibly "free" for women makes about as much sense as legislating that all auto insurance must cover oil changes. Such an idea goes against the very nature of insurance in the first place (not to mention how contraception goes against the nature of human sexual acts themselves) and simply raises everyone's health insurance premiums. Add in the morally repugnant notion that everyone should be forced to pay for some people's sterilizations or abortions and you've got a case that even this Supreme Court won't side with on its face. If public opinion were truly for the HHS mandate, you'd see a popular uprising in support of it. Instead, even many of those who support contraception, sterilizations, and abortions will honestly admit that nobody else should be forced to subsidize those particular things by some government mandate. When John Q. Public understands the issue completely, he sides against the government on this one. Only those who willfully choose to be misled by lies like "a war on women" will side with Big Brother publicly on the issue. Brother Kevin Gregorek, MICnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7708139263643046536.post-56211548736027453652013-07-03T20:49:54.991-04:002013-07-03T20:49:54.991-04:00I don't know how the S.Ct. will rule, but I do...I don't know how the S.Ct. will rule, but I don't think it's accurate to say that the President and HHS have lost in the court of public opinion. I also don't agree that contraception is not health care--most women at least will not agree with you. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7708139263643046536.post-16625859368275401912013-07-03T20:43:24.830-04:002013-07-03T20:43:24.830-04:00Anonymous, in order for your statement to have any...Anonymous, in order for your statement to have any validity, Hobby Lobby would somehow have to magically gain the power that it does not currently possess, even under the current health system--that of preventing women from buying their own contraception. Mind you, contraceptives used for the purpose of contraception specifically are decidedly NOT health care. A woman's fertility is a natural and healthy state, meaning that her body is functioning as God designed it. <br /><br />It's a sad day when the Executive branch of the Federal gov't believes that giving women "free" contraception, sterilizations and abortions is somehow above the First Amendment right to religious liberty. The President and the HHS have already lost in the court of public opinion, which is why Obama and Sebelius refuse to discuss this matter publicly. They also know that they have no case to make legally. The US Supreme Court ruling against the HHS mandate will either be 9-0 or perhaps 8-1 if Ruth Bader Ginsburg is feeling especially frisky and abortion-friendly on the day she makes her decision.Brother Kevin Gregorek, MIChttp://www.marian.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7708139263643046536.post-5714638783019031572013-07-03T15:56:34.859-04:002013-07-03T15:56:34.859-04:00In the statement it's critical to notice that ...In the statement it's critical to notice that "Citizen A" is a capitalist and "Citizen B" is a worker. Hobby Lobby owners do not want to their female workers to have contraceptive health care. I hope they lose in the courts. They have already lost in public opinion. <br /><br />It's a sad day when our so-called religious leaders look out for the interests of business owners at the expense of ordinary (female) workers. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7708139263643046536.post-42871601937699441162013-07-02T22:30:13.218-04:002013-07-02T22:30:13.218-04:00We'll evaluate how this will affect us politic...We'll evaluate how this will affect us politically and get back to you. If we feel it will help us gain more votes then we may agree with you otherwise don't hold your breath. <br /><br />Respectfully,<br /><br />An American PoliticianAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7708139263643046536.post-5435524280199495552013-07-02T22:25:45.106-04:002013-07-02T22:25:45.106-04:00The respectable Congresswoman and House minority l...The respectable Congresswoman and House minority leader Nancy Pelosi and Vice President Joe Biden are prominent practicing Catholics and disagree with the above statement. Now what? I haven't heard anything from their catholic Bishops saying otherwise. So what's the problem with Obama Care? Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15640255299475367581noreply@blogger.com